29 December 2009

Others who had comment removed

There were some other comments from that Guardian article also removed. Some are more innocuous than mine.  They're civilised comments - just dissenting.  Why were these removed?:

Update: I had a look at the Guardian posting policy and it's ambiguous enough to edit whatever they want.  See here:

1. We welcome debate and dissent, but personal attacks (on authors, other users or any individual), persistent trolling and mindless abuse will not be tolerated.

OK, so my post said: Mirror mirror on the wall who's that scariest scare monger of them all, re: Hansen?  I guess that was a personal attack on the author, although it's fairly vague.  I mean, where do you draw the line between dissent and insult?

2. We acknowledge criticism of the articles we publish, but will not allow persistent misrepresentation of the Guardian and our journalists to be published on our website. For the sake of robust debate, we will distinguish between constructive, focused argument and smear tactics.
6. We will remove any content that may put us in legal jeopardy, such as potentially libellous or defamatory postings, or material posted in potential breach of copyright.

Point 6 I can agree with cause the UK has very strict libel laws.

censorshipRuss censorshipRuss

27 Dec 2009, 8:35PM
The theory about CO2 and climate was a minor scientific hypothesis which was hijacked by many vested interests.
Mainly the oil companies (Carbon credits) and banks (Carbon trading).


27 Dec 2009, 8:16PM
CO2 is not a pollutant, however it is plant food. Without CO2 the earth would not be green! 

In a June 23, 1988 testimony to Congress, "Dr Hansen writes "that the safe level of atmospheric carbon dioxide is no more than 350 ppm (parts per million) and it may be less. Carbon dioxide amount is already 385 ppm and rising about 2 ppm per year." 

"CO2 for different people has different attractions. After all, what is it? - it?s not a pollutant, it?s a product of every living creature?s breathing, it?s the product of all plant respiration, it is essential for plant life and photosynthesis, it?s a product of all industrial burning, it?s a product of driving ? I mean, if you ever wanted a leverage point to control everything from exhalation to driving, this would be a dream. So it has a kind of fundamental attractiveness to bureaucratic mentality." - Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT
I always laugh when I read a newspaper article which expresses, "the experts are surprised" Why are experts surprised when computer models do not predict a correct outcome?

ngavc ngavc

27 Dec 2009, 7:51PM
Yes, people must make changes in the way they live.
Not until you guys face up to Phil Jone's attempts to hide missing source data, blacklist publications and dissenters, and FOIL freedom of information law requests. A full and complete investigation conducted by scientists most people trust with their lives (Like those employed by Exxon-Mobil) must be conducted immediately.


27 Dec 2009, 7:48PM
The theory about CO2 and climate was a minor scientific hypothesis which was hijacked by many vested interests. Among these, governments were interested in more taxes, and gaining trade advantage. Copenhagen has shown that the trade idea is dead. Fortunately, countries have to compete on tax, especially for corporations. So left-wing activists should lower their expectations that high carbon taxes will re-order society according their old-fashioned and discredited socialist ideas.


27 Dec 2009, 7:39PM
Thought i should mention that we have moved on - it was global warming, then it was climate change, it is now "climate instability." Please, we really need you all to keep up. We all need this change because the temp has not kept up with the models(it hasn't changed in 10 yrs) and we have too much invested in the theory too abandon it now.
Thankyou for your cooperation. You will have a place in our new world society
once we purge the malcontents.


27 Dec 2009, 7:26PM

The guy who wrote this article actually thinks that a world government is a good idea. And he thinks that humans are affecting the climate. Don't believe him for a second. None of that is true.


27 Dec 2009, 7:24PM

It does not speak well of the Guardian to publish the spewings of a known liar and fraud like Hansen.


27 Dec 2009, 7:12PM

each time i read about M.M.G.W.
i'am reminded of the great quotation,
thats how i feel about man made global warming and it gets repeated
all the time.

chiefwiley chiefwiley

27 Dec 2009, 6:58PM

Here's the solution.
Save the world with a simple download of a certificate. Indulgences and dispensations were never so simple before!


27 Dec 2009, 6:17PM

Hansen is nothing more than a gullible little rent boy for George Soros.


27 Dec 2009, 3:52AM

By the way, the graph above is another strange one, after the hockey sticks.
Developed countries are show separate, but developing countries are bundled together with "shipping and air". Looks misleading to me.

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